Compare These Two Political Views to Yours

Due to an article I read today which showed many do not do research and fact check, they just spout political hatred which both sides are guilty; I am going to present you with the two views which are prominent in our political area today; both of these groups "claim" to be non-partisan. I am not for or against these two groups but want to pull what their web sites say and compare them side by side. I have changes some wording to hide the groups identities but did not remove its context.

Group 1 has about 30 million members across the US as far as I can find, this number can't be verified. When I read their site and went to Wikipedia to see what they said, many people had put contradictory information in there which looked like someone was falsifying data to damage their image; they should monitor Wikipedia to keep this site up to date and correct in its information. Even in the time it took me to write this which was two hours, items on Party 1's Wikipedia site has changed again. They did have some large donors but I could find no single industry or large entity as their core which was eluded to in Wikipedia.

The following is strait from Group 1 Site:

"We believe the responsibility of our beloved nation is etched upon the hearts of true American Patriots from every race, religion, national origin, and walk of life sharing a common belief in the values which made and keep our beloved nation great."

"We stand by the Constitution, we serve as a beacon to the masses that have lost their way, a light illuminating the path to the original intentions of our Founding Fathers. We must raise a choir of voices declaring America must stand on the values which made us great, only then will the politically blind see and deaf hear!"

"By joining the us, you are taking a stand for our nation. You will be upholding the grand principles set forth in the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights."

Group 1's Core Beliefs

  1. Illegal aliens are here illegally.
  2. Pro-domestic employment is indispensable.
  3. A strong military is essential.
  4. Special interests must be eliminated.
  5. Gun ownership is sacred.
  6. Government must be downsized.
  7. The national budget must be balanced.
  8. Deficit spending must end.
  9. Bailout and stimulus plans are illegal.
  10. Reducing personal income taxes is a must.
  11. Reducing business income taxes is mandatory.
  12. Political offices must be available to average citizens.
  13. Intrusive government must be stopped.
  14. English as our core language is required.
  15. Traditional family values are encouraged.

Group 2 has about 8 million members across the US as far as I can find, this number can't be verified.

The following came strait from Group 2's web site.

"But in contrast to most PACs, which funnel industry contributions to candidates in exchange for access, Our groups Political Action bundles hundreds of thousands of small donors together to elect progressive candidates who will represent the American people. In fact, the average donation to Our group's Political Action is less than $20."

I found this not to be true, the majority of it's donations come from large donors many who come from outside the US. I went looking because they say the have "8 million members" with the "average donation to Our group's Political Action is less than $20" which makes $160 million yet they spent in one year of political contributions over $500 million; the numbers didn't add up. They don't seem to care much for the military as well but we have been at war for a while.

From Wikipedia
"Changes in federal election laws have also impacted groups like Group 2. The McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform legislation, which went into effect in 2002, allowed political parties to raise larger amounts of "hard money" contributions, but were forbidden from raising "soft money". Group 2, like many other political organizations which sought to influence the 2004 election, was able to circumvent this legislation using a 527 group, which became inactive in 2005 and closed in 2008."

"The (political party's name removed) 527 organizations have drawn support from some wealthy liberals determined to defeat a Politician. They include a financier Billionaire who gave $1.46 million to Group 2 Voter Fund (in the form of matching funds to recruit additional small donors); Peter B. Lewis, chief executive of the Progressive Corp., who gave $500,000 to Group 2 Voter Fund; and Linda Pritzker, of the Hyatt hotel family, and her Sustainable World Corp., who gave $4 million to the joint fundraising committee."

"On September 20, 2007, the Senate passed an bipartisan amendment designed to "strongly condemn personal attacks on the honor and integrity of public figures. A total of 71 Senators, voted in support. The House passed a similar resolution by a 341-79 vote on September 26, 2007."

My question here is who was the 29 Senators and 79 Representatives who voted against this?

Group 2's Core Beliefs

1.      Americans from all walks of life who use innovative technology to lead, participate in, and win campaigns for progressive change.
2.      The Organization family of organizations have used online tools to lower the barriers to participation in our democracy, so real Americans have a voice in a political process where big money and corporate lobbyists wield too much influence.
3.      Increasingly, the organization's members and progressives are stepping up as the leaders of their own campaigns for social change, using the organization's cutting-edge technology, such as Petitions, to tap into our collective people power by enlisting other members’ support.
4.      The organization's family of organizations is not-for-profit and funded by small dollar donations from our more than 8 million members — no corporate contributions, no big checks from CEOs. And our tiny staff ensures that small contributions go a long way.
5.      Our organization's family is made up of a couple of different pieces. The organization's Civic Action, a 501(c)(4) nonprofit organization, focuses on education and advocacy, providing civic engagement tools to the public, and building the progressive movement by encouraging and supporting the development of more grassroots leaders.
6.      The organization's Political Action, a federal PAC, is focused on demonstrating organizational members’ power at the ballot box and electing candidates who reflect organizational members’ values.

If you read both Groups Core Values, the biggest one liner I can say that is different between the groups is Group 1 wants to keep following the US Constitution as is and follow it as required by the law. Group 2 wants to change the US Constitution to allow more progressive views to govern the American people. Much of our US Constitution has been under attack for years so I guess the big question is do you want it to change or stay as the founding fathers designed.

If you want the US Constitution to stay as is with no new rights but preserving all given rights and freedoms as defined in the US Constitution then you need to fall in with Group 1. If you want to change or suspend the US Constitution in order to receive new rights at the possibility of loosing your freedom and the rights given to you by the US Constitutional, if you want to give the government all the power over you as for these new "securities", you need to fall in with Group 2.

These two groups have been misrepresented by most media for political agenda reasons so instead of believing what I or someone else tells you, look it up. The links to the web sites and their Wikipedia pages are below. Go to YouTube and watch videos of what each group members (not the media or other group) say they believe; it will be an eye opener and I think we need it.

Group 1           Group 1 Wikipedia     Group 2           Group 2 Wikipedia

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